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A La Carte Push appears dead
(old news - 08:09PM Friday Feb 18 2005)
tags: prices · Op/Ed · cable
"We recognize that no one enjoys a price increase, and we've worked diligently over the last three years to hold the line on cable prices," says Cox's New England manager - so here's a price-increase. The hike comes despite the fact Cox just convinced ESPN - who cable companies always blame for the hikes - to back into a less expensive deal.

From the "Make them Play Fair" website, which Cox put up to help protest ESPN's greed and get consumers angry at ESPN instead of them:
"This proves that consumer advocacy works. Consumers learned about the issue, then sent 100,000+ letters and e-mails to ESPN and to Congress asking ESPN to moderate its price increase. ESPN responded, and consumers won."
They won so big, they got a price hike anyway! Congratulations.

While cable broadband rates are stable, customers in many regions are facing another round of basic cable hikes (Comcast, Adelphia) immediately following the hikes some saw pre-Christmas.

Just so we have this straight: cable rates keep rising, even after the industry strikes deals with their mortal enemy ESPN, but A La Carte (picking and choosing channels) isn't a good idea because it would raise cable rates?

Since Congress deregulated the cable industry back in 1996, cable rates have increased a whopping 53%, while inflation has risen 19%. The one politician who seems to care about these endless hikes - John McCain - seems to to be as consistent in pursuing the issue as a narcoleptic Labrador Retriever.

"As long as cable rates continue to go up, the pressure will increase," McCain warned the industry last spring.

Your move, John.

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razzorr

join:2002-01-31
Fort Smith, AR

Glad I do not have it anymore

I got rid of cable a long time ago and am glad.
friech

join:2004-10-10
Wasilla, AK

Re: Glad I do not have it anymore

In the 7 years I've had Directv, I have never had a rate increase that I did not voluntarily initiate myself (i.e. my base rate hasn't increased).

runciter

join:2000-07-22
Centreville, VA
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Re: Glad I do not have it anymore

Get ready for a rate hike! Just got the latest bill from DirecTV and all the basic packages are going up. Locals seem to be default included now ($3 less without). I don't have the rate card in front of me, but IIRC TC is going to be $42.99, TCPlus $45.99. Premiums, HD, DVR service are staying the same.

BigFresh

join:2001-05-04
Stratford, CT
Yes, runsiter is right friech! Just got my bill and the rates are increasing. I'm cancelling until HD gets more mainstream!
Gilitar

join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL

I wish we had more politicians like McCain

Go get em McCain.

kennydillon
Premium
join:2002-06-09
Goddard, KS

One Answer!


DISH NETWORK!

Still cheaper than cable!

KENNY

wdoa

join:2001-10-16
Spencer, MA
·Verizon Online DSL

Re: One Answer!

I just left DISH. Horrible Horrible service. They couldn't get the service to work right after 4 months, and they had no clue why it was. I'm not a big Charter fan and had hoped Dish would be a cheaper alternative, but 4 months of service outages, voice sync issues, general incompetence, and long waits on the phone sent me back to cable. At least for the next year Charter's giving me a $25 a month credit to "buy back my Dish", so my bill for a year anyway. I really wanted Dish to work, but their subcontracts are not properly training and their are MAJOR communication issues within that company between the folks on the phone and the installers.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..

Re: One Answer!

said by wdoa See Profile:

I just left DISH. Horrible Horrible service. They couldn't get the service to work right after 4 months, and they had no clue why it was. I'm not a big Charter fan and had hoped Dish would be a cheaper alternative, but 4 months of service outages, voice sync issues, general incompetence, and long waits on the phone sent me back to cable. At least for the next year Charter's giving me a $25 a month credit to "buy back my Dish", so my bill for a year anyway. I really wanted Dish to work, but their subcontracts are not properly training and their are MAJOR communication issues within that company between the folks on the phone and the installers.
The reason is that they are contractors and not direct installers that work for dishnetwork themselves. That in itself is the reason why one doesn't know what the other is doing.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"

imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
Only for some people.

And now with the Dish and DirecTV yearly rate hikes, they'll be up to cable rates in no time too.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..

Re: One Answer!

There haven't been yearly increases yet on either dishnetwork or directv. I think there has been 3 increases in 10 or 11 years total.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"

imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..

Re: One Answer!

This year and last both raised the prices, it was covered on many sites. »[DIRECTV] March 1st Price Increase - clearly states that last year and this year DirecTV increased its rates. And this site, »ekb.dbstalk.com/17, clearly shows the the same thing. You only fooling yourself if you think that they haven't raised the rates twice in the last two years.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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·Comcast Formerly ..


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February 19th, @09:08AM

Re: One Answer!

I never said not 2 times in the past 2 years. That is a small trend to see yearly increases this year would then constitute yearly increases.

I said 3 or 4 times total in the past 11 years. At this point that is better then the bi annual raping at the hands of the cable cos
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"

imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..

Re: One Answer!

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:

At this point that is better then the bi annual raping at the hands of the cable cos
I have never seen bi annual increasing from any of the cable companies I have ever used, so it doesn't really matter to me. But now that they have had the taste of annual rate increases they are not going to stop. It's a start of a new trend for them, wait and see.

BTW, yes, you did say that there hasn't been yearly rate increases.
said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:
There haven't been yearly increases yet on either dishnetwork or directv.
Guess you must have missed what you typed.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:

Re: One Answer!

Yeap I did But I don't consider that annual as I only got 1 cost increase not 2.

MattE
Obama '08
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
·Corporate Colocation

Reliable Service

Cable Rates ARE high, I routinely feel ripped off on the Cable TV side of things, but I feel somewhat justified paying my $170/month bill.

Simply because I get RELIABLE high speed online, no node overcrowding here, phone service $30 a month LESS than Bellsouth WITH Unlimited Long Distance and excellent customer service.

Are there bundling discounts? Of course, my Road Runner went down to $39.99 because I have TV and Phone service, likewise, my phone service went down to $39.99 (plus taxes and fees, grrr...) because I have TV and Cable Modem service.

All that and I only have ONE bill to pay for three different services.

I, for one, am glad for cable deregulation.

insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN


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February 18th, @11:16PM

Re: Reliable Service

I hope your joking that you are paying 170 a month for cable, internet, and phone service combined. Divide that into thirds and you get $56.67 for each service. That is ridiculously high. Say your paying 40 a month for internet, 50 a month for cable, and 25 a month for VoIP, your paying a total of 115 for all your services. 170 a month is 55 a month too much. Have fun getting ripped off by your neighborhood cable company.

Edit: If your paying 39.99 for tv and 39.99 for phone, that means if your paying 170 a month your paying 90 a month for internet, lol, hahaha, lol, hahaha. LOL!

MattE
Obama '08
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
·Corporate Colocation

Re: Reliable Service

said by insomniac84 See Profile:

I hope your joking that you are paying 170 a month for cable, internet, and phone service combined. Divide that into thirds and you get $56.67 for each service. That is ridiculously high. Say your paying 40 a month for internet, 50 a month for cable, and 25 a month for VoIP, your paying a total of 115 for all your services. 170 a month is 55 a month too much. Have fun getting ripped off by your neighborhood cable company.

Edit: If your paying 39.99 for tv and 39.99 for phone, that means if your paying 170 a month your paying 90 a month for internet, lol, hahaha, lol, hahaha. LOL!
Had a little drinky drinky have we?

David
Last man standing
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs:

Gotta love

The love of money, they get a cheaper ESPN subscription rate, and get the rate hike... Cable had a good year last year..

sorry... sarcasm cannon is fully armed.

So who gets the congratulations? I guess I should be glad I have Directv.

BodyBumper

join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA

edit:
February 18th, @08:06PM

CBAND/4DTV

Have you tried CBAND/4DTV they are a la carte

»skyvision.com/programming/alacarte.html
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..

Re: CBAND/4DTV

Just is a shame not all of us have the room for the dish needed.

Can't wait till I move out to the stick in a couple months I am buying me one of those dishes and only using cable for the net access, of course if fios is in the area I wont have cable at all.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"

devrandom
I got a pot, full of random stuff here
Premium
join:2003-06-28

+1 Karl

If the cable companies come after you, call us and we'll come armed with shotguns, torches and various stolen munitions.

I'm sure you can handle yourself quite well, but we just want to steal your food while you're fighting.

I'm joking of course. We should move to Canada.

Morac

join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast

More money for more service that no one wants.

Cable companies (or at least Comcast justify rate hikes by saying they are needed to provide new and better services.

If you don't use said service, guess what you are still going to pay for it.
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The Comcast Disney Avatar has been retired.

wwdubbia

join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY

Re: More money for more service that no one wants.

I just got a deal from Adelphia, extended digital cable w/HBO + Powerlink (3000/256) for $78.99/mo. for the rest of the year. I think that's pretty good.
Arthur96

join:2000-12-17
Salem, NH


edit:
February 18th, @11:59PM

said by Morac See Profile:


Cable companies (or at least Comcast justify rate hikes by saying they are needed to provide new and better services.

If you don't use said service, guess what you are still going to pay for it.
Not to mention the services they cut (Cough Usenet Cough)

kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
clubs:

McCain really hasn't done anything...

but act politically on this matter to keep his name in the national spotlight. I have actually been a McCain supporter, but he held hearings on this issue and all we get is bs.

Nothing happened and nothing is going to happen.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

Re: McCain really hasn't done anything...

said by kfsutops See Profile:

I have actually been a McCain supporter, but he held hearings on this issue and all we get is bs.
Government will never lower cable prices without screwing up cable TV service. I personally hope the government continues to do nothing about cable TV prices. If people hate paying so much money for cable, they should cancel their service and not pay any more money for it. No one ever died without cable TV.
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Hey Fast Eddie... you're next!
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..

Re: McCain really hasn't done anything...

But so many people use it to baby sit their kids that that just won't happen , not to mention the HSI portion is a big money maker that is sapped on also. with comcast you save $2 a month by getting broadcast basic cable.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"
Randall_Lind

join:2004-01-24
Saint Petersburg, FL


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February 18th, @10:37PM

Re: McCain really hasn't done anything...

It really sucks but without cable I can't watch crap because of how my apartment is nothing comes in.

If cable campines are hurting then people that work for them and contact to install cable need to start paying also.

BrightHouse all workers get free cable with includes pay moviee, Roadrunner, digital phone and also Knight contract people the come out to install cable need to pay.

The reason cable prices go up and not because of cost really it is more because they can. What are you going to do about it. If you are like me and I live in an apartment and can't get a dish there isn't much I can do.
Codacious

join:2001-12-07
Dade City, FL


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February 20th, @01:20PM

Re: McCain really hasn't done anything...

said by Randall_Lind See Profile:


It really sucks but without cable I can't watch crap because of how my apartment is nothing comes in.

If cable campines are hurting then people that work for them and contact to install cable need to start paying also.

BrightHouse all workers get free cable with includes pay moviee, Roadrunner, digital phone and also Knight contract people the come out to install cable need to pay.

The reason cable prices go up and not because of cost really it is more because they can. What are you going to do about it. If you are like me and I live in an apartment and can't get a dish there isn't much I can do.
Hey Randall, I just wanted to correct your statement a little. The employees do get some free service but only 2 PPV a month and no free digital phone. Why? Perhaps because it keeps them from stealing it anyway? When you go to work, dont you get free french fries? J/K Knight contracting getting some free service is something new and they deserve it. They get paid pretty well but by piecework and I wouldn't wont to have to bury 10 200' drops in polypipe across yards all day (maybe when I was younger) and crawl through attics durring the hottest parts of the day. You don't get any company perks where you work? I'de owe money at the end of the week if I worked at best-lie (err...bye)even with employee discount. Why must some people write " my cable channels suck, my dsl line is on and off, my satellite scrambles when the wind farts" when what they mean is " my channels suck since I added a 4 way radio-shack splitter, moved my modem to a different room, friends house, used the push on jumper that came with my $29 VCR, bought a dsl line splitter from ebay, tweaked my own dish settings". Sorry, I'm running off topic. I know any time any company raises rates they always send me a letter why and I just have to take their word for it or come here and see if somebody has dug up some dirt . It seams rates go up when there's about to be some kind of upgrade or new rollout service IMHO. We're all here to share information (and gripe a little) and I appreciate your post as maybe not everybody knew that.
Randall_Lind

join:2004-01-24
Saint Petersburg, FL

Re: McCain really hasn't done anything...

The guy that switch out my VOIP modem told me he didn't pay for digital phone.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:

But so many people use it to baby sit their kids that that just won't happen
So that's their own damn fault. It doesn't justify the government getting involved.
said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:

not to mention the HSI portion is a big money maker that is sapped on also. with comcast you save $2 a month by getting broadcast basic cable.
No one ever said people were entitled to HSI. If people really want it that badly then they can get an extra job or two to pay the cost. If they don't like that then they can go to their public library instead.

Companies charge the highest price for products and services that people are willing to pay. That's been true for thousands of years. The only reason cable companies can raise prices the way they do is because they will make more money by doing so. Once they get to the point at which they lose too many customers, they will stop raising prices.
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Hey Fast Eddie... you're next!
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast Formerly ..

Re: McCain really hasn't done anything...

Man i swear I am gonna start with the /sarcasm tags.

No I totally agree with you. My only complaint is that if they are now offering the same as a phone company for service then they should both either be regulated the same or not be regulated at all.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"

Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept

join:2004-06-26
·Embarq

said by pnh102 See Profile:

No one ever said people were entitled to HSI. If people really want it that badly then they can get an extra job or two to pay the cost. If they don't like that then they can go to their public library instead.
YEAH! Let 'em eat cake! No one ever said nothing! Let 10,000 sheeple line up at the library for 10 links ... YEAH! That'll teach the lazy bastard working 2 jobs to go and get a 3rd job to cover his cable bill, YEAH! When he sleeps isn't MY problem! YEAH! Just because your area has only one cableCo and they're the only company with HSI has nothing to do with price points. YEAH! No good for nothi...

Hostility can be depression turned inward: may want to look into it.

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"The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose." -- Frederick Douglass

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

Re: McCain really hasn't done anything...

said by Titus Pullo See Profile:

YEAH! That'll teach the lazy bastard working 2 jobs to go and get a 3rd job to cover his cable bill, YEAH! When he sleeps isn't MY problem! YEAH!
I agree with you totally. This isn't my problem nor is it the government's problem. If you are in a position at which you need to choose between paying your cable bill and making a rent or mortgage payment, then its probably time to get rid of cable.
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Hey Fast Eddie... you're next!

AbBaZaBbA
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Long Beach, CA

why not

just pay $15/month to an unlimited newsgroup provider and get all the tv shows and or movies and or music you need from there with your high speed internet.

Looking at that al-a-carte provider they charge like $13 a month JUST for HBO.
N Yazdi

join:2004-04-19
Omaha, NE

cable cos suck

i pay 9 dollars for 22 channels, only for when i have company over and i like seinfeld. i cant stand cable co greed and their stupid commercials showing dsl and dial up internet at about the same speed while cable is on the other side. i made several calls both to bellsouth and cox about the deceptive ads but nothing came of it.
jstack

join:2001-12-09
Los Angeles, CA

Cancel

I just cancelled my Comcast Cable yesterday. I switched the DirecTV and will be getting it installed on Tuesday. I'm ecstatic that I am finally free of Comcast. I dropped their internet service last year and their cable this year.

ninjaturtle

join:2003-10-21
Fremont, CA

Re: Cancel

Come on Comcast, just once more and I am out of here. It's going to cost me a fortune with 5 tv's on dish but I am soo fed up. I work in a huge office building and I will be an unofficial dish salesman in my building.
rid0617

join:2003-07-20
Greer, SC
·AT&T Southeast
·AT&T DSL Service

Charter cable

Now this is another company providing crappy service and constant price increases. I have been with directv 7 years and there have been 3 increases. Just got my thing in the mail saying effective March first my total choice (expanded cable with all tiers) will go to 41.99. Considering Charter charges almost $60 for this including the required digital converter I am still price ahead. Excellent service in my neck of the woods with direct. Throw in earthlink dsl for 39.99 and I'm all set.
paisp

join:2004-02-16
Newtown, PA

DirecTV and TIVO

For all you die-hard cable customers... here's what you're missing with DirecTV.

1) TIVO. You can watch something and record something else. Or, record two things and watch a third (recorded) show. Plus, you can skip commercials easily (anyone who has DirecTIVO and doesn't know the 30-second skip trick... aim your remote at the receiver and press SELECT-PLAY-SELECT-3-0-SELECT and now your leap button will advance you 30 seconds into the future and since all commercials are based on 30 second increments, do the math).

Further, you pay only $4.99 extra per month no matter how many TIVOs you have in the house. In my area, Comcast charges $12.99 per month and they charge PER box!!!!!

* You will not watch commercials ever again with TIVO. Consider this... you could watch 2 half-hour shows in about 27mins. Its your time... waste it watching commercials if you want!

* You watch what you want, when you want. So now you are not sitting down looking for something at that moment to watch. Just pull up the playlist and fire away. Its really like getting 3X more TV for the same money if you think about it.

2) On-demand (sort of). DirecTV just recently introduced sort of an on-demand feature with STARZ. Essentially you automatically get all new movies in your play list so you can watch it whenever you want. The movies record before they are released on STARZ channels and it happens in the middle of the night automatically.

3) Make changes to your account online, they take affect in 30 seconds. Add HBO, its done. Remove STARZ, its done. No calling and talking to some rude nitwit after waiting forever on the phone. And you can automatically pay your bill online every month.

4) Lower price, ALL DIGITAL. Not just some channels, ALL CHANNELS.

5) Forget all the bullshi* about weather taking out your picture. If its installed right, you *might* lose your picture maybe once or twice per year and for 3 mins each. And with TIVO, you won't even know it happened anyway.

6) No intrusive advertising. I've experienced Comcast cable in my area a few times. Mainly seeing it on my neighbor's TV's but I also got stuck with it on vacation last year... it was in a condo I rented at the NJ shore. God, I hated it. The guide looks like it was designed for morons... in fact, I think it was. Half of the screen is advertising leaving a small area to scan for channels. Once you select a channel, there's more advertising at the bottom of the screen. I mean enough is enough. There's none of that with DirecTV.

I asked the guy who rented me the condo why he is paying for digital cable when its a rental property. He said they don't sell Basic cable anymore and that's all he could get. Is that not illegal to tell customers? I mean, in the franchise agreement they have to provide at least a 2-20 channel listing (I think its called life-line and its like $12.00/month). They actually told this guy they only have Digital now. To confirm this, my younger brother moved last year and they told him the same. He had to ask for a supervisor who then played dumb about why he was told that. And, I myself have been told that as well... I used to hook the cable up for winter to watch the Phila Flyers until I was told I can't get Basic anymore. I asked for supervisor and when I was told "the rep must not have understood what you were asking for", I hung up and haven't seen a game since. Later Comcast!!

The only drawback about getting a dish is it takes effort. You have to call them, get the dish installed... get the TIVO, etc. TRUST ME ITS SO WORTH IT THAT YOU TOO WILL BE WASTING 15 MINS TYPING MESSAGES LIKE THIS TRYING TO SPREAD THE GOOD WORD.

Any DTV fans want to chime in?

PS: I read some news about TIVO adding an on-demand via-Internet feature soon. I think they are partnered with NetFlix and you essentially just point and shoot on the screen, and the movie starts to play (maybe after buffering or something?)

One thing I am waiting for most is where you record something on one TIVO (in family room, for example) and watch it via your network in the master bedroom. DirecTIVO customers don't have that ability yet :-(
Codacious

join:2001-12-07
Dade City, FL

Re: DirecTV and TIVO

You smell that? It smells like sh*t. Wait a minute, must be the salesman posting above me. Sorry Paisp, you just come across sounding like a telemarketer (d**n telemarketers). A link to »www.directv.com/ would have been nicer instead. The only thing you posted interesting would have been been after PS: . I believe you would be interested in »www.onqhome.com for watching the tele in other rooms.
paisp

join:2004-02-16
Newtown, PA

Re: DirecTV and TIVO

Well my name is Rick Kosick, I live in Wrightstown, PA and I run an ISP located in Newtown, PA. Website is www.starlinx.com

We don't sell TV service.

How do I smell now?

I seriously doubt anyone from any of the large companies cares enough to even read our postings here anyway.

I appreciate the link to OnQ. I just bought a home (settling in April) and the builder installed some sort of fancy OnQ system in the house. It was a spec house that I just happened to fit right into the price range and jumped on it. All I know so far is there is wiring throughout the house and some fancy RGB cable that feeds the TV box above the fireplace, as well as some surround sound jazz.

I'd rather, however, have the ability though to bring up my playlist from all TIVO's in the house on any TIVO rather than goof with some signal splitter device.
Codacious

join:2001-12-07
Dade City, FL

Re: DirecTV and TIVO

So you are a salesman !!!
Sorry if I came across as rude. We don't come across many legit salesman but I checked out your site as well as bbb and you run a decent operation. Hopefully some of the next-gen boxes will come with some better network solutions like we want, but they are proby waiting for a greater demand for it before they can justify the cost in price.
Nice to meet you.
mglunt

join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA
·Verizon FIOS
·VoicePulse

I agree.

I used to have Comcast Digital cable in an apt without a southern view. I was paying $65 a month. I had digital in one room, analog in the other. No DVR. Digital consisted of 5 digital channels and 70+ analog channels.

I now have over 140 digital channels in two rooms with a Tivo and pay $53. March 1st will have the rates at $56.

Don't forget to also mention that when you own your own Tivo, you are free to do with it as you wish. Call Comcast and ask them if it would be OK to open their DVR box and install a larger hard drive in it.

I also think your 30 seconds to change programming is a bit long. I've never had to wait that long .

DTV is also launching two new sats this year that will carry over 1,500 HDTV local and National channels.

As for the HMO (watching a show recorded on another Tivo) that the stand-alone Tivo's have, DTV won't be enabling that. They are coming out with their own setup. They will have a 4 tuner server box that records and can push the shows to the other non-recording boxes in the house. There is a DirecTivo update coming soon, but only to speed up the menu a bit and add things like folders to the now playing list.
paisp

join:2004-02-16
Newtown, PA

Re: DirecTV and TIVO

Hey, I'm famous now!!!!!!!!!

Whoa, you're saying it will be one box acting as a server with essentially just "tuners" at the TV set?

I love TIVO and its interface, minus the speed of the guide (but totally livable). I would love to see them come out with something similiar.

But if DTV has this server thing and it operates as cool as it sounds, then 'off with their heads' over at TIVO!!



I checked out that OnQ stuff that someone mentioned. I have it in my new house but honestly, there's so many different configurations (it seems) that I have no clue what I have. I didn't get to pick it as it was a spec house completed already.

JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA

TV industry "Who pays who" setup is a joke

I think TV is the only place you find the pipeline companies paying the content providers. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't the networks be begging the cable companies to carry their programming? Something is broken here.
mglunt

join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA
·Verizon FIOS
·VoicePulse


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February 22nd, @10:21AM

Re: TV industry "Who pays who" setup is a joke

....and if a cable company stops carrying ESPN, you don't think that would hurt their business any?

They would have to increase their "we have a monopoly on HSI (in most areas)" fee on HIS only customers from $12-$15 to $25+ in an attempt to soften the blow.

JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA

Re: TV industry "Who pays who" setup is a joke

I'm just saying the industry is fundimentally flawed. The pipeline should not be paying for the content.

elias
Premium,VIP
join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
clubs:

Get Rid of ESPN

I wish the cable company let you remove all the sports channels as one 'package' ...

Maybe you could get cheaper cable if you could opt-out of ESPN.

-- Elias
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Crunching the Midnight Oil

CPUYODA

join:2003-01-25
Johnson City, TN
·Sprint Telecom

lol

True,I have not watched ESPN since NASCAR left.....myabe one or two college games.......but only that.

LIke the line from Lost Boys.......got a TV guide....Dont need TV,,,

Well,I have ESPN.com.....don't need the channel...lol
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"In God We Trust,All Others Pay Cash"
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