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05:03PM Wednesday Jul 16 2008 by Karl Bode
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"I feel like I have died and gone to internet heaven," a Cox broadband user says in our Cox forum, as Cox continues to expand the availability of upstream Powerboost technology. Powerboost gives cable broadband customers a significant boost of both downstream and upstream speeds for the first few minutes of large downloads, and has proven very popular among customers of Comcast, Shaw, Cox, and now Time Warner Cable.

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Powerboost is cable's answer to increased Verizon FiOS and AT&T U-Verse technology, at least until they deploy faster DOCSIS 3.0 speeds. A leaked document I received last week suggested Cox would be launching upstream Powerboost in New Orleans this week, but apparently the upgrades hit a number of additional markets as well, including California and Florida.

Florida in particular is lining up to be a very busy market this summer. I'm hearing (and should have more detail on this soon), that after some initial delays, Comcast should begin testing pre-certification DOCSIS 3.0 speeds in Sarasota this week. Comcast is apparently using Powerboost to battle AT&T U-Verse (which offers a top speed of 10Mbps), and 50Mbps pre-cert DOCSIS 3.0 to do battle with FiOS.

Cox, which is being a little less aggressive on the DOCSIS 3.0 front, says they'll be deploying DOCSIS 3.0 "in a limited fashion" by the third quarter of this year. They haven't publicly stated which markets will see the upgrades, but it's likely to first pop up in the Northern Virginia Cox markets where Cox faces FiOS competition.

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Bolt Backer
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July 16th, @08:14PM

Upload Powerboost

We also got it here in Southern California.

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Reports of Cable's Death Greatly Exaggerated

The important point here in my mind is that they are milking out these impressive upload speeds using DOCSIS 2.0 gear. While the speeds haven't hit here yet (and probably won't until they're done with the 1GHz plant upgrade), its clear cable is no danger from the FiOS boogeyman.
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EPS

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Re: Reports of Cable's Death Greatly Exaggerated

"No" danger is a bit of an overstatement, I'd say.

But cable certainly isn't doomed or anything.
ProFiOSDude
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First few minutes vs. always.

Sticking with FiOS

PFD

dvd536
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Re: Reports of Cable's Death Greatly Exaggerated

said by ProFiOSDude See Profile :

First few minutes vs. always.

Sticking with FiOS
Cable node: 500+, fios node: 32.
guess who gets more consistant service.
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Re: Reports of Cable's Death Greatly Exaggerated

said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by ProFiOSDude See Profile :

First few minutes vs. always.

Sticking with FiOS
Cable node: 500+, fios node: 32.
guess who gets more consistant service.
Guess who clearly has no clue what they are talking about... You...

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Re: Reports of Cable's Death Greatly Exaggerated

said by captain456 :

said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by ProFiOSDude See Profile :

First few minutes vs. always.

Sticking with FiOS
Cable node: 500+, fios node: 32.
guess who gets more consistant service.
Guess who clearly has no clue what they are talking about... You...
download speed of DSL ranges from 256 kbit/s to 24,000 kbit/s

&

download speed of Fios ranges from 5,120 kbit/s to 51,200 kbit/s

also:
quote:
In 2007, Dr. John Papandriopoulos, a University of Melbourne engineering researcher, patented algorithms that can potentially boost DSL line speeds to a maximum of 250 Mbit/s

thats a potential 256,000 kbit/s if those algorithms work

Hehe

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said by ProFiOSDude See Profile :

First few minutes vs. always.

Sticking with FiOS

PFD
With Comcast it's first few seconds. Maybe 10 seconds, but I think closer to 5. Just enough to trick the speed testers.

acid343211
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Don't know if i like this.

This is what i get,used to get 7.5MBIT 556


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exocet_cm
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Works in New Orleans

WOW! I'm happy! I've been waiting for a long time for higher upstream speeds even if it is only a boost.

tad2020

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Powerboost: the new "up to"

What's to stop a cable co from using the new powerboost speeds as their "up to" moniker on tiers for their marketing?
It seems to me that they'd need to change the asterisk to something like "Actual speeds vary. Advertised speeds reflects first few minutes of download. Off peak times only. Actual speeds after first few minutes of download subject to additional conditions and network management.", and the normal user wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

hopeflicker
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Re: Powerboost: the new "up to"

I have a feeling that "boost" will be the new tool for cable companies for a very long time. Will users ever see true upload increases? You know, ones that will last the entire duration of the upload?

I can see the advertisements now (circa 2011)"Upload music, videos, pictures and more with "POWER BOOST".
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Re: Powerboost: the new "up to"

said by hopeflicker See Profile :

I have a feeling that "boost" will be the new tool for cable companies for a very long time. Will users ever see true upload increases? You know, ones that will last the entire duration of the upload?

I can see the advertisements now (circa 2011)"Upload music, videos, pictures and more with "POWER BOOST".
We got a true upload increase from 1024kbps to 1536kbps. course in "have"(fios areas) they went to 3mbps on their config file!
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Re: Powerboost: the new "up to"

said by dvd536 See Profile :

We got a true upload increase from 1024kbps to 1536kbps. course in "have"(fios areas) they went to 3mbps on their config file!
There's no way you can REALLY tell what your TRUE UL or DL is with a company using powerboost. for all you know after the powerboost a supposed 10 Mbps connection could be 5 and how would you tell? Speed test? Oh wait that would immediatly employ the powerboost thus falsely inflating your actual TRUE speed. Sorry I'll pass. I hope Charter never implements this.
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Re: Powerboost: the new "up to"

a) yes there is, find a nice big ISO file and download it. Once the powerboost has worn off, the connection will settle to your provisioned speed.

b) who gives a crap? Isn't the point behind a faster connection being able to download shit faster? Or are you more concerned about bragging rights?
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Re: Powerboost: the new "up to"

said by jester121 See Profile :

a) yes there is, find a nice big ISO file and download it. Once the powerboost has worn off, the connection will settle to your provisioned speed.
ISO? Whatever that is. 99.9% of NORMAL people don't know what an ISO is. And I'm not wasting time looking for one. That's a real stupid way to know when there are speedtests out there.

b) who gives a crap? Isn't the point behind a faster connection being able to download shit faster? Or are you more concerned about bragging rights?
First of all the people I see bragging the most are the ones with powerboost going to speedtest.net and posting their inflated results.

I care because if I'm paying $70 a month for say 16 Mbps tier I damned well better be getting 16 mbps not 8.

Let me ask you, if your ISP instituted a cap, even a really high one of say 500 GB a month, but they said "We won't give you a way to tell how much bandwidth you're using just trust us to measure it for you" would you trust them? Or would you not say "wait a minute, I want my own way of knowing what I'm using"
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Re: Powerboost: the new "up to"

What are you yammering on about? Do you want a checkbox on the popular speedtest sites to turn off your ISP's powerboost? Well sorry, not going to happen. First you don't like speedtests, then in your latest you say there's speedtests out there so who needs file downloads.

I gave you an idea to find a file whose download size will outlast the limited duration of powerboost and you don't like that either. How about an engraved plaque? A notarized certificate? A stick drawing in a pile of dirt?

Hehe

@ssa.gov
I can "see" the number of bytes transfered per second on my firewall. The Comcast boost only lasts about 5 seconds, then drops to very stable speed of 8/2mb.
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Didn't Comcast just upgrade all of their markets from 384 to 1024 and 768 to 2048?

dvd536
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said by tad2020 See Profile :

What's to stop a cable co from using the new powerboost speeds as their "up to" moniker on tiers for their marketing?
It seems to me that they'd need to change the asterisk to something like "Actual speeds vary. Advertised speeds reflects first few minutes of download. Off peak times only. Actual speeds after first few minutes of download subject to additional conditions and network management.", and the normal user wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Oh i'm sure the first cable company to get caught doing that will be charter!
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nixen
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Hmm... Guess So.

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What "Powerboost"

Cox hasn't rolled this out in Stepford yet. Er, I mean Orange County, CA. And if they have, I haven't received anything to let me know about its availability and I certainly haven't seen any discernible "boost" in my connection. Then again, FIOS and U-Verse aren't available in this market so I would imagine Cox won't bother to roll out their pathethic "boost" to compete.

Post the truth

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Re: What "Powerboost"

down in San diego getting 20 down and 3 up sweet...

Prismatic
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Re: What "Powerboost"

said by Post the truth :

down in San diego getting 20 down and 3 up sweet...
I'm in San Diego also and only seeing 19 down and 900 up

Usually I got around 23-29 down and 512 up

Any chance it just needs a little bit to.. work in?

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Re: What "Powerboost"

Reboot your modem and router.
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are you on perferred or premier? If you are on Perferred thats sounds right.
ITALIAN926

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Fakers

So, let Verizon FiOS come out with a "boost" to 200 down / 50 up service.

Whatever cable does, Verizon can do better.

Cable sux.

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Re: Fakers

Except for billing.

davoice

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Re: Fakers

Apparently you have never seen my Time Warner bill... er BILLS (plural).

}Davoice

Post the truth

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I have seen 100 down and 100 up :P at the cable company.. with my own eyes and hands.
rob27
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Re: Fakers

and can the rest of us get it? no!

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July 17th, @07:23AM

I would love to see Fios adopt something like this. They could go to 100/100. (They can't go higher without upgrading their equipment, and most people only have 100 Mbps Ethernet anyway.) They could do it tomorrow if they wanted to. And they could even turn it on full time -- that would mean shared bandwidth (there's something like 622/155 available per 32 customers on a Fios node), but by cable company standards, that would still be a good deal.
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why not make upload permanent already?

Just provide options that allow for permanent upload speed increases already. This is 2008, we've got plenty of download speed, why not give us more upload so we can actually do some neat things with our bandwidth such as off site backup, high quality multi-person video conferencing, and who knows what else. With powerboost, it just seems like a tease to me, enough to make you feel like you've got bandwidth when running speed tests, and that's about it. I think perhaps speed tests should be a bit larger and reflect peak speed and sustained speed as well, because otherwise Powerboost will give a false indication of having lots of bandwidth you really don't truly have but for a few seconds. Of course I just subscribed to my cable provider's business class top tier soly for the upload and it's just 2mbps. Not complaining, I'm loving it, but I want to know what cable upstream is really capable of.

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Re: why not make upload permanent already?

They should get faster speeds because Optimum Online is also DOCSIS 2.0 and offers 30/5 with no powerboost and is pretty consistent most of the time. 30/5 Internet alone is $65 a month but I have the triple play and 30/5 for me is $40 a month.
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This is mid-year 2008....

All cable companies should be offering around 5megabits upstream by now throughout the footprint... there is NO excuse considering the money they've made from the docsis technology over the past decade. To the extent that they've skimped on deep fiber/node expansion speaks volumes to the lack of REAL competition more than anything. Putting back together a stronger AT&T didn't seem to help much, if any... perhaps in select markets bundles are competitively priced.
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