Comcast Cuts First Responder FreebiesAs a 'benefit' of new state franchise law... ( old news - 09:34AM Tuesday Aug 14 2007) tags: legal · prices · business · cable · legislation · ComcastAs we frequently mention, phone industry lobbyists have lobbied state lawmakers intensely for new "franchise reform" laws so they don't have to adhere to traditional build-out requirements or offer extra perks to communities. Cable operators are also benefiting; the passage of one such law in Michigan has resulted in Comcast cutting free TV and broadband services from many firehouse and police stations: Around July 4, Comcast began notifying communities that in the future, it will provide a free drop to one police and one fire station per community, not to each facility as it does now, [but]... the vast majority of cities have more than one fire station... The connections are not just for free entertainment. Kreucher said several communities use the infrastructure for distance learning for firefighters, as well as access to emergency alerts from the Federal Emergency Management Administration. Comcast says they will continue to offer free service to 2,400 public libraries and accredited K-12 schools, however. Recall, the original claim was that these laws would usher forth competition and lower TV prices, so keep your eye on your TV bill over the next several years. Related:- If Comcast Shares Broadband Deployment Data, The Terrorists Win
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| Happy Independence Day....... ......and to reward you brave men and women who protect us and keep us safe, we're cutting off your cable. 
Now if you sign up for triple play, we might be able to work out a deal.  | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... Well, to be fair...why should the cable companies bear the burden of "rewarding" first responders with free service?
What do you do for a living? Are you willing to provide free goods/services to police and fire departments?
Why not also demand local businesses supply them with free car washes, pizza, haircuts, oil changes, etc....
It's a legitimate expense of running an important public service, so let them keep their cable and bill the taxpayers.
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... Comcast did this as a goodwill gesture to get their franchise agreements and as a tool to get firefighters to sign up for the service at home. Now that the exclusive franchise agreements are no longer around, they don't feel the need to promote the goodwill like before.
Around here, people volunteer to work the phones at police stations during the Christmas holidays so one more officer can go home to his family. The volunteers aren't out on the streets but they help out where they can.
I do computer technical work and I have helped out schools and other non-profits on my own time.
Again, cable companies did this to get their exclusive rights and now they are playing sour grapes. | |
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| Don't know about you , but around here , they get free food or reduced rates , reduce rates on cleaning as well as services.
I actually fix pcs at cost for local first responders. They get paid but in my opinion they should get paid much more, they are often in the line of danger.
Comcast should offer reduced rates as well. I love corporations when they get greedy. Makes it way easier to cancel the service. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... To be honest, I don't see the need.
The community already collects the franchise fees from the consumer/provider so they can pay the bills from the city infrustructure in return. Fair is fair.
And to what Moonpuppy said about that they are no longer getting exclusive agreements - sour grapes.. etc. I agree too. However, if Comcast is no longer the exclusive provider, why should THEY be the one to provide the free service? Devils advocate you know.
What's happening with this story is that, like anything today, people try to make things worse and "an outrage" by exploiting the topic. In this case, it's "first responders".. We also would have accepted abused women, children/orphans, the sick, schools, injured, etc.
Today, it's open season on making others look bad in the name of certain groups. I'm sorry to sound like a prude, but firefighters make a salary like the rest of us. In many areas, they aren't having a problem getting fireman, and if $60 per month for cable TV is too much for the city to pay, then I've got a problem with that. ESPECIALLY when, in my area, my city pays over a million dollars to set off fireworks ever August to celebrate some 'thing' that a few of the town folk show up for.
I don't care for what ever reason cable doesn't want to provide free service for any more to the fire departments, I personally could care less. I am not going to get involved in the emotional debate over this because it's not a right. I could care less if Comcast is being stingy and I could care less if the fire department feels abused.
Charity should NEVER be forced. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... said by fiberguy :To be honest, I don't see the need. turn. Fair is fair. [...] In many areas, they aren't having a problem getting fireman, and if $60 per month for cable TV is too much for the city to pay, then I've got a problem with that. As mentioned in the article, it is going to be commercial rates, not residential rates. And that will include the two-way services. So, we are talking more like $600-$1000/month per station rather than $60/month. If the stations have FEMA authorized local emergency alert insertion, it is going to be even more than that. In those cases too, service is not going to be an option. The FEMA requirements will mean that the fire stations will have to continue to pay for service or lose local emergency alerts. -- ISCABBS - the oldest and largest BBS on the Internet telnet://bbs.iscabbs.com Professional Geographer Geographic Information Science researcher | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... They/you get paychecks for putting your lives on the line.
You didn't answer the question. "Why should CABLE COMPANIES bear the burden ..? Does Qwest? AT&T? Verizon? for phone? Do they offer DSL service for free? Answer - no. Know it for a fact.. it's not a standard.
Cable companies pay franchise fees. That's it! Cable is not an entity for the city to rape and abuse and it's own desire. If the city wants free cable for it's infrustructure, I want it for mine too.
As for free food or reduced rates.. discounts and goodies. That's not a law or an ordinance. That is done at the good will of the individual business to offer that.
And, before you jump all over me.. I'd put a number on it that 70% of my family is either fire, EMT, or police. When I was 18, I went through the fire academy as well.
And, it's a fact of life that not everyone views police as the good guys even those that don't break laws. In our city, the cops are often as*es and I am sure there are plenty of people in L.A. who aren't friends of the police either. Not everyone has a great relationship with police and not everyone feels that they need to give free to a public funded service.
NONE of my post here is to say my feelings towards fire and police, however, many will assume because I point out the other ugly side/facts to this argument. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... A Paycheck???? I was a volunteer Over 70 percent of fire departments are
said by fiberguy :They/you get paychecks for putting your lives on the line. You didn't answer the question. "Why should CABLE COMPANIES bear the burden ..? Does Qwest? AT&T? Verizon? for phone? Do they offer DSL service for free? Answer - no. Know it for a fact.. it's not a standard. Cable companies pay franchise fees. That's it! Cable is not an entity for the city to rape and abuse and it's own desire. If the city wants free cable for it's infrustructure, I want it for mine too. As for free food or reduced rates.. discounts and goodies. That's not a law or an ordinance. That is done at the good will of the individual business to offer that. And, before you jump all over me.. I'd put a number on it that 70% of my family is either fire, EMT, or police. When I was 18, I went through the fire academy as well. And, it's a fact of life that not everyone views police as the good guys even those that don't break laws. In our city, the cops are often as*es and I am sure there are plenty of people in L.A. who aren't friends of the police either. Not everyone has a great relationship with police and not everyone feels that they need to give free to a public funded service. NONE of my post here is to say my feelings towards fire and police, however, many will assume because I point out the other ugly side/facts to this argument. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| Re: Happy Independence Day....... 70% of all fire departments are volunteer? where do you get those facts. But... why don't you look at the number of fireman that are volunteer.
Major metros pay their fireman.. They also have larger staffs. Larger cities have larger crews. Boonie departments have far fewer people in the station and there are many of those.. sure, your numbers may work in your favor.. 70%? doubt it. Count the number of paid, .. your figures are off.
You quoted my entire post.. and the question still hasn't been answered.
Why doesn't verizon, qwest, at&t, et all, give away free phone service. Why isn't satellite stepping up to the plate to support the communities in which they take the money from. Why isn't gas and electric free to the stations? Why are the stations not built for free??
Shall I go on?
This whole thread is a BBR attempt to bash the cable company which they often love to do.
So how about it?? How about the "Telephone doesn't give first responders free phones! How dare they!" topic? -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... It's actually more than 70% quote: Of the estimated 1,078,300 firefighters, 784,700 were volunteer. ... statistics show that the percentage of volunteer firefighters is now more than 80 percent. ... www.nvfc.org
That's a quote from a study done a few years ago, but from the reading I've done, the ratio of paid vs. volunteer is still roughly the same.
There's also an article in Wikipedia, if you give them any credence. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_···partment | |
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| Of the estimated 1,078,300 firefighters, 784,700 were volunteer. ... statistics show that the percentage of volunteer firefighters is now more than 80 percent. ... www.nvfc.org
said by fiberguy :70% of all fire departments are volunteer? where do you get those facts. But... why don't you look at the number of fireman that are volunteer. Major metros pay their fireman.. They also have larger staffs. Larger cities have larger crews. Boonie departments have far fewer people in the station and there are many of those.. sure, your numbers may work in your favor.. 70%? doubt it. Count the number of paid, .. your figures are off. You quoted my entire post.. and the question still hasn't been answered. Why doesn't verizon, qwest, at&t, et all, give away free phone service. Why isn't satellite stepping up to the plate to support the communities in which they take the money from. Why isn't gas and electric free to the stations? Why are the stations not built for free?? Shall I go on? This whole thread is a BBR attempt to bash the cable company which they often love to do. So how about it?? How about the "Telephone doesn't give first responders free phones! How dare they!" topic? -- (sig was too long) | |
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| said by exocet_cm : quote: What do you do for a living? Are you willing to provide free goods/services to police and fire departments?
I am a police officer. Yes. So you are saying you are willing to be a police officer for free? WooHoo! Take that to your HR tomorrow and ask them to hold the paychecks because you are doing it for NOTHING! | |
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| In my area police officers do get free car washes from a car washing business, they get free haircuts, they get free use of both gyms in my town, they get discount on oil changes, they get discount on food at all fast food places, they get discounts at walgreens, they get discounts on renting apartments ($50 a month for a $800 a month apt if they park their squad car in the parking lot), and probably many more discounts I do not know about. Also all the town workers get free nextel cell phones for unlimited use, because they allowed nextel to lease town land to erect a cell tower.
There is nothing wrong with that as they get around 30,000 a year to risk their lives.
Now only if teachers who make around 30,000 a year could get those same benefits as they are just as important. -- »www.ryanoneill.us | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... Teachers around here (Bucks County, Pa) average 70K per year, Firemen are volunteers and police get 45K. So don't go crying about poor teachers to me, how many of them get shot while they are working?????? and yes I;m a retired Law Enforcement Officer who got shoot in the line of duty and is now disabled from it | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... Teacher get 70,000 a year????? What???
Are you talking about a teacher with 25 years of service?
My sister is a new teacher who has worked 2 years, teachers start between 25,000 to 35,000 a year depending on the area and cost of living. The only way teachers would average 70,000 a year is if the average price of the smallest one room house in your area is over 500,000 a year. Your cost of living would have to be very very high.
Please tell me the name of the school that pays 70,000 a year? -- »www.ryanoneill.us | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... In my school district, our teachers' new average salary of $75,000 is the same as the county's household average income and one-third of our teachers earn nearly $90,000. Yet the teachers still hit the picket lines for 21 days because they did not want to make a token contribution toward healthcare premiums of 6-9 percent and they didn't like the drug plan. (link »educationpa.blogspot.com/2006_03···ive.html
By contrast, in 2000 the median salary in a Bucks County Pennsylvania school district was reported to be $85,395, above $70,000 in some other Pennsylvania districts. The national average was approaching $50,000. (LINK »www.buckeyeinstitute.org/article/81 | |
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| said by r81984 :Teacher get 70,000 a year????? What??? Are you talking about a teacher with 25 years of service? My sister is a new teacher who has worked 2 years, teachers start between 25,000 to 35,000 a year depending on the area and cost of living. Please tell me the name of the school that pays 70,000 a year? Change her district or move. My wife is a teacher and actually makes over that. She is 32. And she teaches in a district where the average home is probalby 70-120K. If that. -- CableFAQ.org/Technicians Unplugged
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |   r81984 Tough to beat. Premium join:2001-11-14 Morgan City, LA edit: August 15th, @04:29PM
| Re: Happy Independence Day....... Please tell me the district because working in one of the riches areas in Indiana only pays around 30,000.
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   CableTool Poorly Representing MYSELF. Premium join:2004-11-12 | Re: Happy Independence Day....... 212 | |
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| said by ret369 :Teachers around here (Bucks County, Pa) average 70K per year, Firemen are volunteers and police get 45K. So don't go crying about poor teachers to me, how many of them get shot while they are working?????? and yes I;m a retired Law Enforcement Officer who got shoot in the line of duty and is now disabled from it Ask the widow of the teachers at Columbine. LaFollette, Tennessee. VA Tech, other locations where teachers have been shot by students.
Yeah....try your next best argument because that one just crashed and burned! | |
|  |  |  |  |  |   ret369 Premium join:2004-06-03 Warminster, PA
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... said by TraumaJunkie :said by ret369 :Teachers around here (Bucks County, Pa) average 70K per year, Firemen are volunteers and police get 45K. So don't go crying about poor teachers to me, how many of them get shot while they are working?????? and yes I;m a retired Law Enforcement Officer who got shoot in the line of duty and is now disabled from it Ask the widow of the teachers at Columbine. LaFollette, Tennessee. VA Tech, other locations where teachers have been shot by students. Yeah....try your next best argument because that one just crashed and burned! Police Officers in the US Total Line of Duty Deaths: 117 in 2007
Teachers about 10
Let me see now who has the most dangerous job?? | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... Teachers that entered the field knowing that they would be putting thier lives on the line while educating children. 0% Police officers entering the field knowing they would be putting their lives on the line while protecting the streets? 100% -- CableFAQ.org/Technicians Unplugged
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... said by CableTool :Teachers that entered the field knowing that they would be putting thier lives on the line while educating children. 0% Try telling that to teachers that work in inner city schools. | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... I married one. And she STILL didnt enter education thinking her life would be on the line. Metal detector at the doors, security gaurds and three students of hers killed last school year. In any event.. this has nothing to do with little ole franchise reform.  -- CableFAQ.org/Technicians Unplugged
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| Dont cry about poor police officers either. Round here some made more than ANY other public official, and twice the pay of the governer (262K to be precise). 45% of Boston cops made 6 figures last year.
Gotta love MA's crazy "police officer at EVERY worksite" laws. | |
|  |  |  |   N3OGH They both suck, we're so screwed Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs
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| WOW, wish I lived there.
I get free nothing in my town for being a cop, and no one gives me a discount on rent or anything.
Did I mention I also get $14/hr and had to buy my own gun, cuffs, magazines, etc?
And yes, I work 2 jobs... -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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join:2003-09-24 Leesburg, FL | I have yet to see a police officer get three months of paid vacation per year. Most don't belong to unions, either. | |
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| Re: Happy Independence Day....... said by Jeepster93 :Well to be fair I'm a member of an all volunteer Department and we receive free basic cable from Mediacom. Suppose you lived in my District and you called 911 and nobody showed up to bail your ass out of your predicament. No loss to me hopefully you have home, fire, automobile, health insurance. We pay our bills just like every other business, private citizen. You should think about the men and women who come rushing to aid you or your loved ones as we all are not paid and will risk our lives to save you and your property. FYI: there are more unpaid Volunteer Firefighters in this country than there are Paid Firefighters. We don't live in the station but it sure helps to have cable to keep track of approaching weather conditions. JM2C well said | |
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| At the town I worked in the town franchoise agreemen t was free cable for the fd pd and schools. By the way I am a first responder I dont expect ti be rewarded but when you take something you gave us forever we gonna bitch when its taken away.
said by mocycler :Well, to be fair...why should the cable companies bear the burden of "rewarding" first responders with free service? What do you do for a living? Are you willing to provide free goods/services to police and fire departments? Why not also demand local businesses supply them with free car washes, pizza, haircuts, oil changes, etc.... It's a legitimate expense of running an important public service, so let them keep their cable and bill the taxpayers. mocycler | |
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| For those of you who donate time/services, how would you feel if you were required or expected to do so?
I assume you give because you want to and can stop any time you want, right? Shouldn't the cable company likewise be given the the same option you expect for yourself?
Forced charity isn't charity. And don't compare occasionally fixing a PC or doing some other personal favor to 24x7 operation of a complex cable network that in most cases serves several if not dozens of municipal buildings.
This reminds me of the of the lady in my office that shakes us down for every fundraiser and pet project that comes down the pike...then lays a guilt trip on those who don't go along.
I still say it should be charged to the taxpayers. Or, anyone who feels so indebted can always open their checkbook and pay the firehouse cable bill themselves.
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| IMO, heroes and brave men and women are people that do extraordinary things when they were not required to, simply having a job in the military or as a firefighter, police person or paramedic does not qualify you as a hero or brave man or women in my book, your getting paid to do a job and you knew the risks associated with that job when you signed up.
In the U.S. we often refer to our military as a volunteer military, which I think may be somewhat confusing to some, they currently don't have to join, but they do get paid and it is a job and they did know the risks of the job when they signed up.
As a veteran myself I personally get sick and tired of the whole hero thing as do many currently enlisted soldiers and many other veterans, whom I've spoken too about this, so please, stop thinking us and stop calling us heroes, we are/were doing our job and this is our country too, we wanted to help protect it and we got a job doing it. They actually have medals and other such awards for people preforming above and beyond the call of duty, A.K.A. heroes or brave persons.
Nothing is sicker to me than seeing someone's relative on T.V. crying and whining because little Johnny is at war now, sure it was fine for him to draw his pay and enjoy going to college on the G.I. bill, just as long as he didn't have to actually do anything, news flash, that's what little Johnny has been trained for and paid for and again, he and his relative knew the potential risks. In fact IMO anyone that would actually enjoy being thanked for doing what they are suppose to do and are getting paid to do or being called a hero or brave for doing their job is nothing more than an arrogant, egotistical, opportunist.
My point is quite simple really...
In my book, if your a police person and you take down an armed and dangerous suspect, your not a hero, nor considered brave, but if you did it when you didn't have to, for example your supervisor was advising you against it or told you to wait for backup but you seen a grave need to act immediately even against that, that's a hero, that's a brave person.
Doing your job is only normal and expected behavior and thus only makes you a normal person.
There are many dangerous jobs out in the world and guess what, the positions mentioned in this post are not at the top of the most dangerous jobs list and the persons performing the most dangerous jobs are never called a hero or a brave person, in fact they are hardly ever noticed, ever thanked and often most people would just as soon spit on them as give them the time of day.
Short version, Comcast nor anyone else owes them anything and now that the law has changed they have every right to disconnect those services, just be thankful that they are leaving the other services on out of the kindness of their heart. | |
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| Someone should resign.... What ever state lawmakers that made this law should resign. Why would you want to harm budgets of police and fire departments by taking away their free internet and tv.
If I were the police I would make up the loss by ticketing as much of the lawmakers as possible for every stupid traffic mistake they make. Also if any of them have a fire, the fire department could just take their sweet time.
I fail to see how cutting free internet and tv from less then 1% of comcasts overall customers will lower anyones bill.
If those police and firestations start paying, maybe everyone's bill could go down by less than 1 cent.
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| I have a big problem with this... if anything, I can see them cutting service to non emergency municipal offices and even to schools.
But I can think of a handful of reasons why service to police and fire depts. could be important in an emergency and I think it's a REAL bad move, politically and otherwise..for them to be doing this....
ASSUMING that they are.
I say assuming because I'm not a big fan at all of rebroadcast news and feel that something this potentially inflamatory should be verified with Comcast directly to hear their position on the matter.
But..if it is true..I think that comcast customers and non customers alike...should be outraged. And would support BBR giving this a whole lot of headline attention over the coming weeks and months until they change this practice. -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! | |
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| Re: I have a big problem with this... It could be they are just testing the waters to see what happens. That would be the smart thing to do. If it works in one place then try it in another. If it still works, then roll it out nationally in areas where there is no other real competition. Naturally, you hold off in places where you are still in negotiations for new agreements.
Now if a competitor were to come in behind and give the police and fire stations free or heavily discounted TV and internet, I can imagine Comcast crying foul and demanding to be let back in. | |
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| Re: I have a big problem with this... said by moonpuppy :It could be they are just testing the waters to see what happens. That would be the smart thing to do. If it works in one place then try it in another. If it still works, then roll it out nationally in areas where there is no other real competition. Naturally, you hold off in places where you are still in negotiations for new agreements. Now if a competitor were to come in behind and give the police and fire stations free or heavily discounted TV and internet, I can imagine Comcast crying foul and demanding to be let back in. To be let back in where? There is no franchise agreement keeping them "out" If another company comes in and offers free service, great. It doesnt mean Comcast will suffer. They will still hold a statewide franchise if that the way it all shakes out. Nothing lost at all. And certainly nothing to gain by offering your service for free.
And for what its worth Ive wired many many many Municipal, Fire and Police stations. They are in breakrooms, in the chiefs office on his flatscreen. There is nothing else run through the lines, nothing modulated and they pulled the free HSI out of the firehouses because of the porn. -- CableFAQ.org/Technicians Unplugged
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| Re: I have a big problem with this... said by CableTool :said by moonpuppy :It could be they are just testing the waters to see what happens. That would be the smart thing to do. If it works in one place then try it in another. If it still works, then roll it out nationally in areas where there is no other real competition. Naturally, you hold off in places where you are still in negotiations for new agreements. Now if a competitor were to come in behind and give the police and fire stations free or heavily discounted TV and internet, I can imagine Comcast crying foul and demanding to be let back in. To be let back in where? There is no franchise agreement keeping them "out" If another company comes in and offers free service, great. It doesnt mean Comcast will suffer. They will still hold a statewide franchise if that the way it all shakes out. Nothing lost at all. And certainly nothing to gain by offering your service for free. Politics has always been a dirty business. If say Verizon gave free FIOS to the fire and police stations, then I can see Verizon getting by with a lot more than cable (eg. Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.) Legal? Probably not but we all see how local politicos can work the system to their advantage.  | |
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| Re: I have a big problem with this... Sure.. if they had a local franchise and had any sort of vested interest in scratching the local govts back. Which they dont. Because again, its a statewide franchise. -- CableFAQ.org/Technicians Unplugged
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