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AR
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Anybody know? Social Security Benefits Statement......

Hi,

If someone (a US citizen) has never worked and has no income, what would the person's benefit statement show? An income of $0 for every year?

What would be the case when the said person is filing jointly with a spouse who actually has employment income?

Curious to know......Thanks.


McSummation
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At 62, a spouse can file for "spousal benefit". The amount is based on age at filing. My wife (who has only at 12 quarters) is getting almost 50% of my check.


AR
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I'm not concerned about the benefits granted but only what does the SSA record as the person's income through the years where the person has been filing a joint return but has no W2 or any other source of income.

Thanks.


McSummation
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I think I'm confused.

If you have no W2 income, then the SSA record should show $0 for each year. Or, if they have never had any income, then it probably doesn't show anything because the statement starts the first year you have reportable income.


Mickeyme
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October 6th, @06:51PM

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»ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa···opview=1


AR
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reply to McSummation
Don't be confused This is kinda an unknown yet because the person has never received a benefits statement but has asked for one only now --- as proof of non-income.


McSummation
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Oh.


Mickeyme
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October 6th, @09:28PM

reply to AR
The non-workers statement would have to have all zeros, if they even send one. Does the non-worker even have a social security number?


BurntCricket
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Every citizen has a SS #, years ago you got it when you got your first job, now the parents apply for it when the child is born, without a SS# the child can't be claimed as a dependent on their taxes or anyones.
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It is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.


Mickeyme
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But, if this person is older (OP doesn't say) and never worked the person never needed one.


BurntCricket
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If they were listed on anyones taxes in the last twenty years or so they would.
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It is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.


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reply to AR
The SSA and the IRS share information... via W2 and 941, etc. Since the statement is for each taxpayer, no income would mean $0 for that year on the report.

However, if I remember my last statement correctly, it also shows a spectrum of benefits... retirement, spousal, disability, etc. Start reading here: »www.ssa.gov/mystatement/
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Mickeyme
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said by BurntCricket See Profile :

If they were listed on anyones taxes in the last twenty years or so they would.
OP never did say how old this person is.


dvd536
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reply to AR
$0 is actually the best for one spouse. when you're both old enough to file for benefits the one getting the lesser amount has to give up their benefits automatically. theres alot of "living in sin" in retirement communities because of this.
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AR
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Well, the person is 65, has a valid SSN of course. I was just curious how a non-worker's benefit statement would look.

Matter of fact, now I'm curious how my own statement would look since I've been working in Canada since 2004.


McSummation
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If you haven't had any FICA withheld (Social Security deduction), then you will have 0's for those years.


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reply to AR
I have had W-2 Income, Self-Employment Income and negative Income while Self-Employed.

I have glanced at most of the other replies and give you my own example - My SSA statement shows several years of '0' income.

This was when I filed I Form 'F' [Farming Income] and had had a loss, even though filing jointly with spouse having W-2 income.
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AR
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Cool, thanks guys.


Greg_Z
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reply to AR
socialsecurity.gov


Greg_Z
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reply to AR
said by AR See Profile :

Well, the person is 65, has a valid SSN of course. I was just curious how a non-worker's benefit statement would look.

Matter of fact, now I'm curious how my own statement would look since I've been working in Canada since 2004.
All zeros as mentioned before.
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