kyoto221
join:2008-10-05
| [iO] Bar on TV screen
Hi i have IO digital cable, i have an olevia lcd screen, i want to get rid of the vertical bars on my non HD channels, i tried to change the settings where it has options "Stretch" "Zoom" "Normal" but i dont like the way it looks like on zoom or stretch,
Is there a way to get the "Normal" option without the bars??? |
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xirian
Premium
join:2003-01-26
Beacon, NY | assuming that your lcd is widescreen, those bars are there because you are watching 4:3 content instead of 16:9. The only way to get rid of them is to stretch or zoom, as the content isnt the same aspect ratio as your screen. |
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kyoto221
join:2008-10-05
| but the thing is, on a Plasma TV i have downstairs which is 42 inches, i can get the "Normal" option without the bars, idk why though it's weird, the only difference i can think of is, that TV used Monster HDTV cables which are supposed to be very high quality |
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Zen1
@optonline.net
| Monster HDTV cables have NOTHING to do with it, they are a waste of money, because there isn't enough current flowing in HDTV cables to need a large conductor, i'd say either your plasma t.v. isn't widescreen, OR it just has a better stretch function.. |
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serge666
join:2004-06-07
Little Falls, NJ | reply to kyoto221
you have to go through the HDTV setup on the cable box to enable the resolutions. there are 2 options for 480p. there's 480p and then there's 480p Widescreen which is what you're seeing. turn the box off and press the Guide and Info together. |
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SteveCVtech
@optonline.net
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Cables have nothing to do with it. The standard 4:3 picture will always have the black bars on the sides of a 16:9 widescreen TV. If you want to maintain a normal picture shape(not stretched), zooming is the only option. The problem is it zooms the whole picture so it cuts the top and bottom to maintain shape and makes the lower resolution more obvious. Best way is to leave the Olevia's setting at "aspect" and the cable box in "normal" for its natural aspect ratio. You'll get used to the bars after a few weeks and you'll learn to appreciate the HD channels even more. If your other TV looks normal in normal, either the TV or cable box is zooming(check both), or the TV has a standard 4:3 shape but then you'd get bars on the top and bottom to get the 16:9(widescreen) shape. |
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metalunna
join:2003-06-16
Clifton, NJ
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I now leave the 4x3 stuff stretched out..
I know it sounds crazy, but I have gone through 2 Samsung LCD's by leaving the vertical bars on the sides.
I actually developed a burn in. On one TV, a strip of pixels went out.On a second tv, I now have a slight discoloration. I only really notice it during hockey games (because of the contrast of the ice).
Of course Samsung denies it and Cablevision could care less. At lease Samsung replaced the 1st TV. The 2nd is now out of warranty. |
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eival
join:2008-07-09
| said by metalunna  :I now leave the 4x3 stuff stretched out.. I know it sounds crazy, but I have gone through 2 Samsung LCD's by leaving the vertical bars on the sides. I actually developed a burn in. On one TV, a strip of pixels went out.On a second tv, I now have a slight discoloration. I only really notice it during hockey games (because of the contrast of the ice). Of course Samsung denies it and Cablevision could care less. At lease Samsung replaced the 1st TV. The 2nd is now out of warranty. you can change the darkness of the bars in the options menu, it goes from Black to Grey to White. |
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IllIlIlllIll
Elitedata
Premium
join:2003-07-06
Lindenhurst, NY
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said by kyoto221 :but the thing is, on a Plasma TV i have downstairs which is 42 inches, i can get the "Normal" option without the bars, idk why though it's weird, the only difference i can think of is, that TV used Monster HDTV cables which are supposed to be very high quality the plasma downstairs more than likely has "panoramic" stretch.
panoramic stretch gradually stretches away from the center of the screen, leaving the center normal. |
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kyoto221
join:2008-10-05 | reply to kyoto221
thanks for you replies, i think im gonna just deal with it, when all channel in the new york area go digital in 2009, will i still see the bars??? |
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RickNY
Premium
join:2000-11-02
New York
 ·Optimum Online
| said by kyoto221 :thanks for you replies, i think im gonna just deal with it, when all channel in the new york area go digital in 2009, will i still see the bars??? Youll see whatever you see today since the move to digital has nothing to do with cable |
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kyoto221
join:2008-10-05 | reply to kyoto221
so when they go to digital they wont change most of their programs to wide screen? |
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xirian
Premium
join:2003-01-26
Beacon, NY
| the change to digital in 2009 has absolutely nothing to do with cable. It just means that people who receive the local channels via antenna will need a converter box or tv with a digital tuner as the channels will be sent digitally as to use less spectrum. they will be the same as they are now for you. |
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SteveCVTech
@optonline.net
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Xirian is mostly right. Since your in this forum I assume you have cable. Thanks to the FCC's mandate, cable will have to continue transmitting an analog signal for customers who don't have a cable box for regular broadcast channels. This is to keep cable companies from taking advantage and forcing everyone to rent boxes. So for a while, cable customers won't see a difference. The mandates will end when the government is satisfied the public has caught up to the technology change. Fortunately for us, the space taken up by the analog stations on the cable line will fit 12x the stations in digital or more varied content once they are freed up. Eventually, widescreen HD will probably become the standard broadcast format for most TV and cable stations because others don't want to be left behind in standard 480i. |
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IllIlIlllIll
Elitedata
Premium
join:2003-07-06
Lindenhurst, NY
| said by SteveCVTech :
Xirian is mostly right. Since your in this forum I assume you have cable. Thanks to the FCC's mandate, cable will have to continue transmitting an analog signal for customers who don't have a cable box for regular broadcast channels. This is to keep cable companies from taking advantage and forcing everyone to rent boxes... except that cablevision will keep taking away one analog channel at a time, usually the popular ones in an attempt to get those who have more than one tv set and only one or two boxes, to rent another or more. |
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rra
join:2008-09-19
Kingsville, MO
| The purpose is not to increase revenue. It is because analog channels suck up bandwidth. Cable companies will only keep analog channels because they have to. Its a wasteful format that will eventually be phased out.
Depending on your market you may see all but the lifeline basic channels eventually go digital.
If cable companies were able to do whatever they wanted with the network for instance they could convert everything to digital and offer hundreds of HD channels. Unfourtunately there would be alot of older/poorer/uneducated demographics left behind. |
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