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yabos

join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON

reply to knightmb
Re: "legal content"

That's what I have been saying the big ISPs should do for a long time. QOS the torrents and whatever else to low priority so other traffic doesn't get held up. I do this at home and can download full speed from nntp with 8 simultaneous connections and when http comes along, even downloading a huge file over http, nntp goes to basically zero until http is done. It took me a little bit to figure it all out but it's working great on the WRT54GL that I bought.


funchords
Robb
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join:2001-03-11
Hillsboro, OR
I'm fine with that suggestion as long as the USERS (actually, their apps) decide what packets to give the lower priority markings to. Then Comcast can obey those markings (RFC2474).

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

said by funchords See Profile :

I'm fine with that suggestion as long as the USERS (actually, their apps) decide what packets to give the lower priority markings to. Then Comcast can obey those markings (RFC2474).
Way too open to abuse. What if someone decides to mark torrent traffic with a tag used for VOIP?


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May 25th, @02:39PM

said by patcat88 See Profile :

said by funchords See Profile :

I'm fine with that suggestion as long as the USERS (actually, their apps) decide what packets to give the lower priority markings to. Then Comcast can obey those markings (RFC2474).
Way too open to abuse. What if someone decides to mark torrent traffic with a tag used for VOIP?
You don't tag by "type" (torrent, VOIP) but by priority (Expedited, Assured, Normal). But your observation and question is still a valid one.

If someone wants to tag their torrents Expedited, that's their business but it's easily solved and its covered in the RFC2474.

ISPs simply need to allocate a certain number of bytes/hr. (or percentage, or per day or however they want to dice it up) as the quota for priority handling, then when that quota gets reached, everything on that account gets the default "best-effort" normal handling.

Some torrent traffic is being watched "in real time" like a streaming video (BitTorrent, Vuze, Pando, and Podcasting are all services that do this). So users would want to tag this kind of download higher than normal background file transfers (but probably not as high as VOIP).

G711 = consumes 90 kbps or around 40MB per hour. So if there was a limit of 200MB of Expedited Forwarding a day, you could talk on the phone for 5 hours without ever hitting the limit. You wouldn't be torrenting very long before you hit that limit. Either way, once the limit is hit, you're not cut off -- you're just not "expedited" anymore.

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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

QOSing is the right solution. All spare bandwidth left over after all higher priority is used up should be available for torrenting. I should definetly be able to get my line maxed out at 3 AM in the morning.

But no ISPs are respectfull enough to do it. »broadband.mpi-sws.mpg.de/transpa···results/

RSTs flow equally at all times of the day.
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