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| reply to en102 Re: Legal P2P will be fostered; illegal P2P will be punished
said by en102 :Nobody invests in capacity, unless they can make a profit on that investment. Its more likely that you'll find the investment to be in managing the efficiency of the existing capacity. That's just putting a nicer spin on "it will be more profitable for the ISP to charge more and more, make more restrictive policies, and never improve anything for the customers".
said by en102 :I almost wonder if this p4p is an attempt at creating ISP based seed proxy servers for customers. It would cut down on bandwidth consumption, and sold p2p issues. They can't seed or cache anything from p2p without getting in legal trouble, because a lot of what's out there (and a lot of what's popular and would benefit from caching) is copyright-infringing. Even indiscriminate caching would get them sued, and if they did it selectively it wouldn't help much with the traffic problem.
Besides, it would amount to the same thing as collaborating with Pando/p4p companies. But that doesn't reduce their peering costs unless they discourage p2p (see my "it's a scam" post). |
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| said by swhx7 :They can't seed or cache anything from p2p without getting in legal trouble, because a lot of what's out there (and a lot of what's popular and would benefit from caching) is copyright-infringing. Sure they can ... Via DMCA notices ... just like YouTube.
Comcast already handles DMCA notices, so allowing a PeerCache and applying notice handling to that would be no big whoop (hell, it might end up saving time!).
Now DMCA is broken itself, but that's a different story. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon HTTP is the new Bandwidth Hog...
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| Yep. American laws gives protection to automated non-human intervention systems. Aslong as the humans responsible for the automated non-human system responds to DCMA takedowns/supeonas/orders, everything is perfectly legal. Otherwise your ISP would be held as liable as you for any p2p you do, and the Tier 1 too, and the leasers of the fiber optic lines, and the city too (for aiding copyright infrindgment). |
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